Natural Original Awareness versus A.I. Eve Lorgen Interview

Eve Lorgen is a dedicated counseling and hypnotherapy professional, author, anomalous trauma researcher, Hatha yogi and Taoist Chi Gong practitioner. She began her pioneering work with alien abductees, “milabs” and mind control victims while earning her Masters Degree in Counseling Psychology in 1992.
Eve Lorgen of and returns to The Cosmic Switchboard Show to talk about a recent article by her colleague Maarit, a Female Milab from Scandinavia. Eve discusses the “Natural Original Awareness” versus the Demiurge A.I. in Maarit’s article.
In Part 2 Eve Lorgen discusses more aspects of the Demiurge A.I. Control System as wellas The Alien Love Bite/Drama of the Love Obsession.
Eve Lorgen Website: The Alien Love Bite

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  1. I’m thankful for the opportunity to leave comments on this site. I’m grateful for these interviews that contain such beautiful knowledge. God bless the dragon slayers and the colleagues of Bartley. Great work guys keep it going, it is profoundly appreciated.

    A few thoughts i had while listening are as follows. Thank you in advance.

    Narcissistic people are everywhere and it’s a challenge managing it. One thing that has been coming to mind in recent times is the concept of us terraforming our environment. I’ve found this can be done socially, spiritually and psychically.

    We know that the enemy engages in terraforming on every level, why can’t we aim to do the same, but with a positive focus?

    I think of the Marianne Williamson quote about our greatest fear. Part of
    it says :

    ‘…as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others’.

    I have seen firsthand the effects others have had on me, for good, and that I’ve had on others.

  2. In the Jolene Seebacher interview you did from Dec. 2016, she spoke excellently regarding the complicated nature of contracts with negative entities.

    From a karmic standpoint it only makes sense to become and remain aware of the spiritual/etheric/whatever implants we may have. Like Jolene says, we wash our dishes, ourselves, our homes. Why not actively cleanse our souls as well?

    If an ancestor inadvertently subjugated their descendants (us) to a blood contract, we have to do what we can to close that contract.

    In one of the Sachita interviews she taught us how to take our power back, stand up for ourselves as sovereign beings and draw a line in the sand. Yes it is difficult, yes it is repetive, yes it is solitary and often quite scary. But what else will we do if we can’t try heal and reconnect with Eternal Power?

  3. And it raises an important yet critical question. If the negative ones are truly that powerful, why are you the reader, STILL ALIVE, reading this? You are already winning and you have help even when it doesn’t seem like it. As Bartley has often said, we have friends in high places.

    Harald Kautz-Vella reminded us that the enemy do all they can to trick us. They want us to use our free agency, our own choices, to harm ourselves.

    The demiurge know that there are still strict universal parameters that they must operate within, or that’ll bring too much attention to themselves. So they use that wiggle room, the veil of spiritual amnesia and social circumstance against us. To trap us, to harvest from us.

    Regardless of their chest beating and grand standing, the enemy is still subject to Universal Law. Whether they deny it or not, accept it or not it’s a truth.

    It’s time we stand up people. It’s been time for a long time. I think this war may not end anytime soon but it wpuld be good to be incorrect about that.

  4. Thanks for your time, may God bless you. I look forward to gleaning more and more divine truths through James’ hard work. With that knowledge we can help others. May the blessings of safety and providence rest on us all.

  5. Great interview James and Eve. As, always very insightful. It’s crazy how some people still attribute these dark forces to just “thought forms” without intent, while as you and Eve point it out- these forces do have negative ill in place/ there is a whole sophisticated conscious and alive system behind them. They aren’t just a product of societies negativity and imagination. In truth, believing these are just thought forms truly empowers these negative forces, because if they are just thought forms they don’t really exist.

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